Cslabs now have Own Control Software

**alboy** · 31-01-2018

Just ordered the 30 day trial software myself. Not much info on the website, no manual to peruse, does a manual come with the software download Dean?

**routercnc** · 31-01-2018

Nice one Dean thanks.

An interesting proposition as this means controller hardware and controller software are from the same vendor, not having to use a plug-in with a 3rd party (e.g. Mach3) software.

If I understand what they are doing -
This offer was launched only a month ago so it is not ready yet.
You can get a perpetual 30 day demo licence now for free whilst they finish it but when it is finished you will have to pay a higher amount (potentially 259 Euro).

Or you can take a punt and pay only '179 Euro' now, receive the WIP versions as they are updated, and when it is ready you will get it shipped free.

Either way following with interest.

**JAZZCNC** · 01-02-2018

Originally Posted by routercnc

Nice one Dean thanks.

An interesting proposition as this means controller hardware and controller software are from the same vendor, not having to use a plug-in with a 3rd party (e.g. Mach3) software.

Yep but better still is the motion planner they are using. S curve planners give much smoother performance than standard planners which most other control softwares use.
Art fennerty made a version of Mach Called Tempest which used S curve planner and for 3D work it was great but at that time the computing power of PC's wasn't enough to justify Art to developing it further. Today's PC's are more than upto hence why we are seeing it.

**alboy** · 01-02-2018

Originally Posted by JAZZCNC

Yep but better still is the motion planner they are using. S curve planners give much smoother performance than standard planners which most other control softwares use.
Art fennerty made a version of Mach Called Tempest which used S curve planner and for 3D work it was great but at that time the computing power of PC's wasn't enough to justify Art to developing it further. Today's PC's are more than upto hence why we are seeing it.

Dammit now I have to go and google S curve control methods lol.

**Ger21** · 01-02-2018

I wonder what the pace of development will be. A complex control can take a long time to develop. UCCNC for example, has been steadily adding features for over 3 years now.
We all know how long Mach4 has been in development.
Fwiw, S curve is on the to do list for UCCNC, but I don't expect it anytime too..
I still use Tempest occasionally on my old router. Much smoother, and more accurate for 3D work than the default Mach3 planner.
S-Curve is really good for powerful, fast machines.

Lot's of good control options available these days, and still everyone keeps using Mach3.

**JAZZCNC** · 01-02-2018

Originally Posted by Ger21

I wonder what the pace of development will be. A complex control can take a long time to develop. UCCNC for example, has been steadily adding features for over 3 years now.
We all know how long Mach4 has been in development.
Fwiw, S curve is on the to do list for UCCNC, but I don't expect it anytime too..
I still use Tempest occasionally on my old router. Much smoother, and more accurate for 3D work than the default Mach3 planner.
S-Curve is really good for powerful, fast machines.

Lot's of good control options available these days, and still everyone keeps using Mach3.

Familiarity and huge user base is all that's keeping mach3 alive I think Gerry. Mach4 is just none starter really hence why people like Cslabs and MCP are jumping ship I think. Just wished they'd done it sooner.

Regards development we'll have to wait and see. However, I was pleasantly surprised to see it features Tangential cutting which I believe UCCNC still doesn't.?
You'd expect little often used a feature like this to be low priority or sidelined for a future release. Let's hope it allows G2/3 moves for arcs.!

What I will do when get it working is check out how it handles G42 as well and report on UCCNC.

**Web Goblin** · 01-02-2018

Dean,
A good report on the software would be great particularly looking at dual homing/gantry correction and info on the tool change procedure would be well received. I am seriously looking and dumping the cslabs control and moving to Centroids Acorn. I remember emailing Cslabs a while back asking if they would support any other software apart from Mach and they said they didn't have any plans for it so maybe this was just under wraps until it reached release stage. Unfortunately I don't have a working machine to test it on at the moment but does it operate in demo mode?

Ian

**Neale** · 01-02-2018

Originally Posted by Ger21

...and still everyone keeps using Mach3.

In my case, because I'm using an IP/M! But now it looks as if there might be a choice...

**routercnc** · 01-02-2018

Nice video Dean thanks for taking the time to investigate. Hope your license arrives soon.

**JAZZCNC** · 01-02-2018

Ok here's a (Like watching paint drying as Clive S told me) video showing Install, Firmware update and first bench test without License look at software.

I'll do better one when can get it on actual machine.