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    Nice on Dean, I had originally drawn something similar in, but I was wondering if the extrusion would sit level incase a bit of warp creeped into it.

    The way I have it I thought may compensate for any un level beams or warping

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-man View Post
    Nice on Dean, I had originally drawn something similar in, but I was wondering if the extrusion would sit level incase a bit of warp creeped into it.

    The way I have it I thought may compensate for any un level beams or warping
    No I wouldn't have it like you have at really because any bending or warping of the cross beams will directly affect the profile and rails and take away accurecy. I drew it without the cross beams more to show the single piece top rather than 2 pieces but other than that it's meant to be just same as you drew it.

    I wouldn't do it your way at all because it will make getting rails on same plane harder and any movement of cross beams will directly affect profile. The surface bed sits on isn't so critical as you will surface the bed parallel to the spindle but the surface the profile/rails sits on must be flat and on same plane each side or allow for the profile to be adjusted onto same plane.

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    I'm not sure I follow what your saying pal... I understand removing the vertical from the centre and putting a cross base in as the sides. Are you saying not to use the 9 cross members on the top now? If so what would be the best way to mount the extrusion
    Last edited by D-man; 24-11-2014 at 08:49 AM.

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    Is this the board you mentioned Dean? Looks a nifty unit

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-man View Post
    Is this the board you mentioned Dean? Looks a nifty unit
    I don't think you put the link in but here it is :- http://www.zappautomation.co.uk/elec...-step-dir.html there are 3 models. ..Clive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive S View Post
    I don't think you put the link in but here it is :- http://www.zappautomation.co.uk/elec...-step-dir.html there are 3 models. ..Clive
    Oops! morning brain fart!

    This is the link http://www.cs-lab.eu/en/produkt-18,2...onnectors.html but its the same Clive cheers pal

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    I think Jazz is saying that using the 9 cross beams will make levelling the extrusion very difficult. In effect you will be creating 9 points along the length of the machine which will need to be perfectly level to get the extrusion flat. Looking at Deans drawing you can place the extrusion directly on the frame length or even better, do away with the extrusion and fit the rails directly to the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-man View Post
    Oops! morning brain fart!

    This is the link http://www.cs-lab.eu/en/produkt-18,2...onnectors.html but its the same Clive cheers pal
    You need the ip-s if you are going to run two motors on the x axis. I got the m for my build and it does seam a very nice bit of kit and made a lot of other things a lot easer to do with all the built in features.
    Last edited by charlieuk; 24-11-2014 at 10:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-man View Post
    I'm not sure I follow what your saying pal... I understand removing the vertical from the centre and putting a cross base in as the sides. Are you saying not to use the 9 cross members on the top now? If so what would be the best way to mount the extrusion
    Ok well seeing your other post about already ordering stuff and the fact I can't be arsed to explain then just crack on. . .Lol

    The controller you want for servos is the IP-S because of it's much faster frequency that high count encoders require to get the best from servos.

    BUT just for clarity then the latest IP-M Beta Firmware now does slaved motors, all be it in a cut down way to the IP-S. (I haven't tried it yet so can't vouch for how well but I will and report)
    The way the IP-S handles slaved motors is different to typical way slaved motors are done with other controllers in that when it hits the switches it's got an option to measure the difference between each switch contact then applie an offset movement to one motor to square the gantry. That said with servo's you'd home using the encoder index which is much more accurate than switches but it works well for steppers without encoders.
    Other controllers like the ESS require you to manually adjust the switches to square the gantry.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    Ok well seeing your other post about already ordering stuff and the fact I can't be arsed to explain then just crack on. . .Lol

    The controller you want for servos is the IP-S because of it's much faster frequency that high count encoders require to get the best from servos.

    BUT just for clarity then the latest IP-M Beta Firmware now does slaved motors, all be it in a cut down way to the IP-S. (I haven't tried it yet so can't vouch for how well but I will and report)
    The way the IP-S handles slaved motors is different to typical way slaved motors are done with other controllers in that when it hits the switches it's got an option to measure the difference between each switch contact then applie an offset movement to one motor to square the gantry. That said with servo's you'd home using the encoder index which is much more accurate than switches but it works well for steppers without encoders.
    Other controllers like the ESS require you to manually adjust the switches to square the gantry.!
    i like the sound of that! Do they require much setting up and wiring like steppers do? If you like I can get them, you can do your review and then send them back all wired up ready to go haha
    Last edited by D-man; 24-11-2014 at 09:54 PM.

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