Thread: Definately a scrapyard challenge
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25-01-2012 #1
Hi Jonathan, thanks for the heads up on the angle. hard to think I used to be a designer.
. Currently being checked over for memory loss problems which probably explains a lot.
I am going to start my build now. I am ordering material tonight as I think I can start moving forward now.
How easy is a self built power supply???
zapp have this as a kit http://www.zappautomation.co.uk/prod...547704f50af02c £316
Do you think these are to cheap or worth a punt http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2508624928...ht_3191wt_1110
BruceThe more I know, I know, I know the less. (John Owen)
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27-01-2012 #2
Very easy to make a power supply. Connect primary of transformer to mains via a fuse, secondary to bridge rectifier (e.g. bit excessive but you can't go wrong with http://www.rapidonline.com/Electroni...ctifiers-29671) and output of rectifier to smoothing capacitors. Minimum about 10,000uF, 80V or greater. Switch on and check the output voltage and polarity is correct with multimeter just to be sure then connect it to the stepper drivers.
I tested a driver that looked identical to the ones you've linked to on eBay. I'd happily buy them if I needed some 50V drivers.
Edit to add:
Apparently it's not blatantly obvious this 4 line post isn't a substitute for proper research, so please note that this isn't a set of complete instructions but a general guideline.Last edited by Jonathan; 27-01-2012 at 11:48 PM.
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27-01-2012 #3
Jonathan I,m sorry but I'm not happy with your reply and I've got to say something.
Your flippant answer regards transformer and capacitors/rectifier is very dangerous in the wrong hands and your putting folks in danger of either blowing up there drives and worse still potential to KILL them selfs.:surprised:
They need to know that yes while it's not difficult to build a transformer supply it does have to be done correctly and components correctly sized to give the correct output they require.
They need to know that the transformer seconderys need to calculated and sized correctly so when rectified from AC to DC they get the correct output so doesn't fry there drives.!
They need to know for stable performance the capacitence should be calculated in relation to V & A required, to say just use anything bigger than 10,000uF is far from ideal.!!
They also need to be aware of the very big potential to KILL them selfs if they dont treat Big capacitors with respect.
They should also be made aware of the need to build in a capacitor drain to be absolutly safe when working on the control box, and that regardless of whether the box is plug in the wall or not that with out a drain system built in then there at risk of being fately electricuted if touched in the wrong place.!!
They need to be made aware of other factors regards rectifiers, like they should really be mounted on heat sinks also how they are wired and they have positive and negative output.
Folks It's not difficult but it's not just simply grab any old transfromer and capacitors and stick it together with a recitfier like Jonathan makes it appear.!!
It needs to be calculated correctly for correct output and as always when working with electricty treated with utmost respect.
While I know how to size and build one I won't post the information in thread like this because of the potential for error then blame.!!
I will gladly help folks on a one to one basis via email or preferably on the phone/skpe because I can explain and control better that it's done correctly. Just won't do it in public.!!
The information regards sizing components correctly is available on the net if you search. But please be sure you fully understand before attempting other wise you risk the BIG possibilty of destroying your drives or Worse your self if you get it badly wrong.:confused:
EDIT: Jonathan dont bother coming back at me because you can't really and I'm not getting into another thread hi-jacking slanging match just needed to be made clear for the sake of others.
Bruce I'm sorry for wasting more of your thread space.Last edited by JAZZCNC; 27-01-2012 at 09:02 PM.
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27-01-2012 #4
I'm allowed to have an opinion as well. Any DIY project like this involves an element of risk. I assumed that taking elementary safety precautions was contextually implied, and if I was wrong to assume that on a forum like this I apologise. I have added some wording to make this clear now.
Just for the record, the mains part clearly is dangerous, but for the rest of the PSU wikipedia sums it up nicely:
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
If motoxy hadn't bought the parts already I would have happily soldered them together for free and sourced the parts, it would have taken at most 15 minutes.
So after that completely unnecessary attack on my post, you know what? I think I will bother.
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28-01-2012 #5
No Jonathan shame on you because for this very reason you should know better.!
I'll say it AGAIN BECAUSE YOUR A STUDENT AND OBVIOUSLY THICK AS SHIT. . . People read your posts and take your word as gospel.
If your going to post on serious stuff like electricty then please have some concideration for those that don't have much if any experience but a massive desire to try, which is great and I for one fully encourage in 99% of cases but with electrical issues then caution needs to exercised and advised.!!
Now go stick your tongue across them 10,000uF Caps if your so sure it will only tickle.. .:wave:
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